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nedalo mi to sem nedat ked som zbadal ten dalsi Petov super vysledok...klobuk dolu a dufam ze mu to bude aj nadalej jazdit.
myslim ze v tejto teme mozeme rozoberat vsetko co sa tyka pretekov kde sa objavia nase nadeje
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Mne je to srdečne ***** lebo PEDs s doloženým účinkom v etapových cyklistických pretekoch je asi toľko, koľko mám ja vagín. Takže celé issué pozorujem asi ako búrku v pohári vody alebo festival na seba narážajúcich *****ov.
Ano to je on... Je to hanba pre cestných cyklistov, ako hrom...
Posledné 3 roky to bolo pod 20.
http://www.uci.ch/clean-sport/therapeutic-use-exemptions/
šermovať týmto fleretíkom je bezpredmetné
(aj ked 20 TUE...na prvy pohlad neposobi ako mnoho ale nevieme ako boli distribuovane. ck ak iba napr. medzi 3 timy? kolko je takych hlavnych podnikov v kalendari napr. pre spominane SKY - tak 3? a kolko z ich jazdcov aspiruje na vitazstvo?)
bullshea
ak by bol salbutamol bez dolozeneho ucinku v etapovych cyklistickych pretekoch, tak by chrooma nepreslahali dvojnasobnou davkou
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24166762
čo pred pár týždňami ešte trochu doklepli ďalší borci:
https://bpspubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/bcp.13619
(mimochodom presne tá istá skupina, ktorá vám siaha na vašu vieru vo všemocný EPO: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28669689)
takže operovať dvojnásobkom je off topic. Ešte aj na doperských weboch, čo si po nete pozakladali pubertálni dementori z pivničných železiarní, sa spomína ako "možno účinná" dávka salbuťáku dávka poriadku desiatok miligramov per day. To by zodpovedalo úplne iným koncentráciám v moči, ale hlavne úplne iným levelom adverse effects, pričom po podaní salbutamolu sú pomerne nemilé následky už po 100 ug vdychu (trasenie svalov, narušenie jemnej motoriky, palpitácie, tachykardia). Pri takých veľkých dávkach, aké by "snáď mohli byť účinné", by si to skôr dával na Cavendisha (pre celkovú nekoordinovanosť spôsoboval pády)
Ale jasne, jednou z "krás" a "výhod" internetu je, že dokladači do regálov v Bille, korčuliari v Tescu, inštalatéri a podobní týpci ako ty budú okokoťovať Heubergera, Cohena, Lipwortha alebo napr. mňa, čo máme grades aj publikované články "v rovnakom alebo príbuznom odbore"
No len holt dáta nepustia
Na druhu stranu pravidla su zatial take ake su a ASO kona v ramci reguli. Mozno je to cele iba jedno lacne bulvarne divadlo na ziskanie pozornosti ale je to furt legit ziadost.
"The Union Cycliste Internationale (UCI) confirms that the anti-doping proceedings involving Mr Christopher Froome have now been closed.
On 20 September 2017, Mr Froome was notified that a sample collected during the Vuelta a España on 7 September 2017 was reported to contain a concentration of salbutamol in excess of 1000ng/ml.
The World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) Prohibited List provides that inhaled salbutamol is permitted subject to a maximum dose of 1600 micrograms over 24 hours, not to exceed 800 micrograms every 12 hours (the permitted use), and that a concentration in excess of 1000 ng/ml is an abnormal finding which is presumed not to be the result of a permitted use. The WADA Prohibited List further provides that the athlete can establish that his/her abnormal result was the consequence of a permitted use, in which case it will not be considered as an Adverse Analytical Finding (AAF).
The UCI instigated disciplinary proceedings in accordance with the UCI Anti-Doping Rules (ADR), during which Mr Froome exercised his right to prove that his abnormal result was the consequence of a permitted use. The proceedings started with an evidentiary phase, with the UCI and Mr Froome agreeing that the UCI Anti-Doping Tribunal would decide whether certain information could be provided to Mr Froome in preparing his defence. The UCI already sought WADA’s advice at that stage, during which a significant number of expert and scientific reports were submitted on behalf of Mr Froome.
After the evidentiary phase, Mr Froome requested additional information from WADA about the salbutamol regime. Following receipt of information from WADA, Mr Froome then filed his explanation for the abnormal result on 4 June 2018, together with significant additional expert evidence.
The UCI has considered all the relevant evidence in detail (in consultation with its own experts and experts from WADA). On 28 June 2018, WADA informed the UCI that it would accept, based on the specific facts of the case, that Mr Froome’s sample results do not constitute an AAF. In light of WADA’s unparalleled access to information and authorship of the salbutamol regime, the UCI has decided, based on WADA’s position, to close the proceedings against Mr Froome.
Whilst the UCI would have obviously preferred the proceedings to have been finalised earlier in the season, it had to ensure that Mr Froome had a fair process, as it would have done with any other rider, and that the correct decision was issued. Having received WADA’s position on 28 June 2018, the UCI prepared and issued its formal reasoned decision as quickly as possible in the circumstances.
The UCI understands that there will be significant discussion of this decision, but wishes to reassure all those involved in or interested in cycling that its decision is based on expert opinions, WADA’s advice, and a full assessment of the facts of the case. The UCI hopes that the cycling world can now turn its focus to, and enjoy, the upcoming races on the cycling calendar."
Jarnými klasikami? Nemýliš si to s van Aertom?
Taktiez som si myslel, ze na cukrovku treba viac mediciny ako na astmu (ale nestudoval som to takze to je uplne na nicom zalozeny dojem) a tak som cakal, ze skor budu mat nejaky preslap s liekmi a davkovanim ako marginal gaineri zo Sky.
Pacilo by sa mi ked maju cukrovkari UnitedHealthcare Pro team tak, ze pri pocte astmatikov by stalo za to spravit cisto team astmatikov. Mozno by to nakoplo aj Lance-a a on by si zalozil team rakovinarov. By bolo pekne keby proti sebe nesutazili mena titularnych sponzorov ale choroby.